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I got caught up on a few recent shows so here be some more TV ramblings...

Ringer An odd choice for the CW to be honest, they probbably took it because of the Buffy connection but the theme is not as youth-oriented as the rest of their line up. However, while I had a hard time getting into it in the beginning, it does work better watching a couple eps in a row. I'm now reasonably entertained. Though I have to say Ioan Gruffud makes some weird acting choices taking me right out of scenes which makes Andrew a hard character to get a handle on.

Revenge Same reaction as after the Pilot, I'm interested but can see my patience running out soon. Nolan, however, continues to be made of win. I kind of dislike Emily/Amanda because she is so continually mean to him for no real reason. He knows and he apparently helps her (not to mention apparently looking out for her emotional well-being as well, did I get that right that he kept Jack? from leaving for her sake?), she even asks him for help in her vengeance plans yet mostly she treats him like a leper. What gives?

The Secret Circle Um, okay. *scratches head* I have no real idea why they killed off Nick so soon/apruptly. Was this planned? Problems with the actor? And lets be honest, none of the characters is really well-developed as of now so that can't be the reason.
Also, riddle me this, if the "Elders" (and haha, literally the grandfathers and mothers? seriously?) still have their kick-ass power why didn't Grandfather of evil school principal put up more of a fight when she killed him? Also, the main character kinda annoys me.

Terra Nova Watched the Pilot, found it okay. Though again, it's like in "Outcasts" where I'd have been much more interested in seeing the first settlers building it all, not family X moving into fantasy village Y. I thought this would be more like Earth 2 but apparently noone dares make another jab at this concept. Also, the son character annoys me.

Grimm Contrary to what I read, I actually liked this. It didn't have the slow pacing problems of all the other Pilots I watched. No idea what they'll make of it (and not to say it was da bomb either) but I was entertained.

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rheasilvia
Oct. 26th, 2011 11:15 pm (UTC)
Terra Nova
I just checked these on Wikipedia, and I must say none of them sounds very interesting... but I'd definitely be interested in your impressions if you keep watching any of these. :-)

And on Terra Nova, just from reading the premise:

Uhm. O-kay. So I guess the normal problem of time travel (that history might inadvertently and unpredictably be changed in a way that is a greater catastrophe than that people are fleeing from) is not an issue, because....? Or don't they care, because they are choosing modern humanity over their own ancestors and evolution? Now there's a paradox (and potential sudden wiping-out of own existence) waiting to happen...

Also, great choice of colony with a future, guys. I guess long-term planning really isn't these people's forte. Or what are you gonna do about that giant meteor that is gonna wipe out all higher plant and animal life for hundreds of years, leaving humanity to pretty much starve and freeze to death?

mareen
Oct. 27th, 2011 03:59 am (UTC)
Re: Terra Nova
So I guess the normal problem of time travel (that history might inadvertently and unpredictably be changed in a way that is a greater catastrophe than that people are fleeing from) is not an issue, because....?

They didn't just go back in time, they are in an alternate universe. They mentioned in a half-sentence in the pilot or the second episode.
astri13
Oct. 27th, 2011 03:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Terra Nova
Heh, I wanted to at least try out some fresh shows this Season so these were my picks. Not sure how long I'll be watching them. Heck, apart from Ringer which is DOA, I don't even know how all of these fare ratings-wise. Maybe the problem will solve itself. :)

As for the time paradox, yup, like mareen said they adressed this in the Pilot - even, amusingly, with much of your argument - by simply making it a parallel universe. The daughter basically says "and this is why we can merrily trample the grass here".

Also, great choice of colony with a future, guys. I guess long-term planning really isn't these people's forte. Or what are you gonna do about that giant meteor that is gonna wipe out all higher plant and animal life for hundreds of years, leaving humanity to pretty much starve and freeze to death?

Good call. Not sure if the parallel argument solves that problem. I think they more or less stumbled onto an exisiting wormwhole in the futureand it led them to this place/time so they didn't have much choice in where they went. Kind of like that movie where they go to medieval French.

I also don't know what they ultimately hope to accomplish. Sure, the planet/nature is all minty fresh and wonderful here but colonizing there just means that humans can destroy it that much sooner.

My best guess is the makers just thought "dinosaurs...cool". Trouble is, on a show's budget you get those things looking like...well, how they ended up looking.
leelust
Oct. 27th, 2011 02:23 am (UTC)
Hehe, i dropped Ringer cause it was boring to watch and to be honest smg's attempts to act weren't good.

I like Revenge better. Agree on Emily and Nolan but i think they're going to some development on that part (i hope) and i like her as a bitch.

Dropped SC also cause all characters annoyed me. A lot. Teen *dramas* is not my thing i suppose.

Terra Nova is just laughable. Stupid characters in stupid plot. Son annoys me as a daughter and wife and especially the lead male - awfully self-centered character.

Grimm didn't impressed me also (again because of bland male lead).

So of all premiered you mentioned it's only Revenge that stays in my schedule.
astri13
Oct. 27th, 2011 03:48 pm (UTC)
Ringer truly does work better in marathoning it. Watching one at a time each week, I might have dropped it as well.

Agree on Emily and Nolan but i think they're going to some development on that part (i hope) and i like her as a bitch.

I have real trouble connecting with her as a character. And I'm normally all over vengeance quest stories, I totally root for the avenging angel. But Emily/Amanda? She evokes nearly no sympathy in me. And the thing with Nolan makes me outright dislike her.

Terra Nova is just laughable. Stupid characters in stupid plot. Son annoys me as a daughter and wife and especially the lead male - awfully self-centered character.

I guess it isn't supposed to be more than Jurrasic Park - the Show. Right now I'll cut the characters some slack since I've only seen the Pilot but if it doesn't get better, I'm jumping off.

Grimm didn't impressed me also (again because of bland male lead).

Thought he was okay. It was a bit disconcerting because lookwise he reminded me off Zach Quinto.
mareen
Oct. 27th, 2011 03:57 am (UTC)
Nolan is pushing her towards being Amanda instead of Emily, that's why she's so mean to him. I'm thinking he reminds her too much of who she was, that's why she does what she does.

As for The Secret Circle: I read somewhere the actor was supposed to die very soon and the actor knew that fromt he start. Which doesn't make it any better in my opinion, because in a group of really boring people, he was the one I found most interesting.
Instead we are stuck with Cassie who continues to be a horrible main character. I blame the bland actress.
astri13
Oct. 27th, 2011 03:54 pm (UTC)
Nolan is pushing her towards being Amanda instead of Emily, that's why she's so mean to him. I'm thinking he reminds her too much of who she was, that's why she does what she does.

I can understand that, I guess I just have a really hard time connecting with her character at all. And I'm proned to root for someone on a diehard vengeance kink because I have a terrible time letting go of transgressions against me, too.

So I dig such stories but while I have no problem hating the characters set up to be served, I can't really cheer for Emily either. And that's problematic in watching this show.

As for The Secret Circle: I read somewhere the actor was supposed to die very soon and the actor knew that fromt he start.

Okay. I wasn't sure if the brother/witch/witchhunter scenario was planned to come about like this from the start or if they simply changed things around.

Which doesn't make it any better in my opinion, because in a group of really boring people, he was the one I found most interesting.

That's the thing, these characters lack...well, a real personality. Cassie most of all. And so agreed on the bland actress. Her main acting choice seems to be to make huge doe eyes. Meh.
legoline
Oct. 27th, 2011 07:05 am (UTC)
I really wanted to like "Ringer", but I dropped it after the pilot episode. The thing about Siobhan having an affair AND liking to party (wheras Bridget is an alcoholic) AND being pregnant...yes. That just felt a whole lot like awkward "And just to make sure there is enough drama, let's add ANOTHER cliché!" to me.
astri13
Oct. 27th, 2011 03:57 pm (UTC)
It gets better - at least IMO - after the Pilot, though not by much honestly.

The pregnancy thing just gives me the giggles right now. Up until the most recent episode, I had no sense of time, it seemed like Bridget had been impersonating Siobhan for weeks and I wondered if at some point she was planning to adress the pregnancy problem since it endangers her masquerade.

But apparently it's just been two weeks so I predict plenty of time for her to bed Andrew and get preggers for real. Which is another thing, either they are sleeping together and show completely wrote it off or Andrew is perfectly fine with never having sex, with a wife he is supposedly reconnecting with. O-kay.
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