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Maybe, just maybe, this will give me the willpower to stop watching something even though Jensen Ackles is in it. I mean, I like all of one lousy character on this godforsaken show now so hearing even the actor doesn't care for the writing? Urgh.


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Sep. 23rd, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC)
What show?
Sep. 23rd, 2010 06:27 pm (UTC)
Supernatural. I hated the Season 5 Finale with a passion but was prepared to check out Season 6 at least. But now? Seems hardly worth it. If I want to feel angry and depressed, I can get that from my job or personal life, not from TV.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 06:53 pm (UTC)
When did he say he didn't like the writing? I agree about the major angsting, I love supernatural I do...but it was SO dark by season 4 & 5, I know it had to b because of the storyline, anything else would just have made it unconvincing & ridiculous, but yeah there's only so much man pain I can take without it making me feel miserable myself!!

Maybe with a new season, there'll be a new start? and he can't hate it THAT much coz he & Jared have signed on (supposedly) for another 2 seasons. Lets just hope it goes back to its roots of having the drama but also the comedy, that for me is what made me kinda fall for the show in the first place xxx
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:02 pm (UTC)
When did he say he didn't like the writing?

In the new interview I linked above. He flat-out said he didn't like how "soft" Dean is written and struggled to do damage control. And seeing as I already had enough of passive, beaten-up, looked-down-on Dean to last me five lifetimes, the very, very last thing I want is even more "softness" (which I just know will be written as wimpiness), I think I'll skip.

My enjoyment directly relates to how Dean is written. A competent badass who doesn't apologize and takes no crap from anybody and I'm happy. Whatever that was supposed to be at the end of Season 5? Very much not happy.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 08:00 pm (UTC)
See for me what mademe unhappy was Dean going to live with Lisa & Ben. I don't dislike Lisa don't ge tme wrong, as a character who won't be a regular she's fine, but what got me was that after everything that has happened to Dean, after everything he's lost I just don't see him going to play happy families.

For me it would have been more believeable if he'd gone to live with Bobby, given up hunting? sure, he could work at the yard, fixing cars and stff, or got a regular job. I just don't think he'd be happy living a white picket fence life. That was what Sam wanted, not Dean.

I'm glad he's put his foot down then, and made them aware of how they're writing Dean. Dean is a badass, who has a soft gooey centre, it's WHY I love him SO much. He's selfless, loyal, he to me is perfect. I know he has his flaws, but he doesn't try to hide them.....I just love him xx
Sep. 23rd, 2010 08:16 pm (UTC)
I'm glad he's put his foot down then, and made them aware of how they're writing Dean.

Well, I don't know if he so much made himself known - really, what can he do, the writers will write whatever they want, if they want to write Dean as a wimp, they will (apparently do) - just that he tries to balance it a bit with performance. In the end, not sure how successful that will be. After all, the dialogue will still be whatever it is. :/
Sep. 23rd, 2010 08:14 pm (UTC)
Okay picture me confused but when the heck did Sam go to hell twice?? is he serious with this shit?? how the fuck can he talk like that about being in hell and coming back after what he did to his brother??!! seriously what the fuck!!!!?????? I'm a little pissed at that!!!
Sep. 23rd, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
That's the other thing. Everything I read about Season 6 Sam makes me think I will continuously want to punch the character. And I was already on shaky ground after last Season. No more.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 09:05 pm (UTC)
Sam has always irritated me to be honest even from the begining, in all honesty it was only by reading fan fiction that I started to see him in a diffeent light and took to him a little. I always preferred Dean, but then I guess that could be said for those who prefer Sam.

For me Sam went out the window when he picked that demon whore over his brother who went to hell for him. To me that was the point when I thought ''you fucktard!!'' but then again, I honestly never thought Sam would have gone with her, not in the mind set he was in, if anything he would have stabbed the bitch forst chance he got!!
Sep. 23rd, 2010 06:22 pm (UTC)
I thought about that too but then i was intrigued to see how Jensen will make their shit work. That's what i'm going to see there. The storyline can go to hell because i have no hopes for it now.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 06:29 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure this will be enough for me. Which I kinda feel bad about because clearly Jensen puts so much work and effort into it - that he shouldn't have to if the writers did their freaking job - but there needs to be a line. Maybe I'll aquire the episodes and watch on ff or wait till I read something good about the Season and then watch retroactively.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 10:45 pm (UTC)
I agree i just can't *leave* him in this mess alone. I don't care about their storyline anymore and i don't give a shit about cancellation or new season. I wish he'd be free already. But since he stuck in this shitty mess and there are a lot of so -called fans ready to bash his every move i can't stop supporting him even if he never feels that support.
Well, i think it all returned to my decision to watch only for Jensen and his Ackting and not for the show.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
I confess that I haven't watched SPN for a while now... still haven't seen the end of last season. But - who could possibly care for the writing anymore at this point?

It was never a show with what I would call good writing even at the best of times. The charm lay in the characterization and relationships, for me, which they did sometimes get right... except that they lost sight of those strengths entirely in favor of myth-arcs they just weren't equipped to handle. And, well. Things kind of went downwards from there...

At least, that's how I'd interpret what happened. :-((
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:13 pm (UTC)
BTW - feel free to spoil me. I don't think I'm ever going to watch the rest of the show. I'd rather keep the memories.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
I agree that it never had great writing. But here I am, thinking the writing for Dean specifically has been abysmally bad in the latter half of Season 5 and now Jensen outright says in an interview that he himself heavily dislikes how Dean is written now (and this is 8 episodes into Season 6).

So, if Jensen says that at a press junket and doesn't give the usual "I love all" media spin and if Jensen finds it bad, I only wonder how bad I will find it, you know? Probably unacceptable.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, definitely a very bad sign...
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
Okay, after reading the interview, I can safely say I have no interest whatsoever in watching SPN again.

So Sam had to be made more speshul still by going to hell too, only having it worse. Right. Because we weren't sure enough before that Dean was never actually important and it was always all about Sammy - and anyone who temporarily believed otherwise was just mistaken.

I don't actually mind the family plot for Dean, because it makes sense for him. All Dean ever really wanted was a family. But from what I can read between the lines here, it's been done in a way that I consider completely untenable.

Which, actually, is no surprise. The SPN writers - sad to say - honestly never were very good; they were best when they kept it simple and straight-forward, and the show's passed that long ago. This is way, way out of their league.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:39 pm (UTC)
So Sam had to be made more speshul still by going to hell too, only having it worse. Right. Because we weren't sure enough before that Dean was never actually important and it was always all about Sammy - and anyone who temporarily believed otherwise was just mistaken.

Well, short of having purple hair and violet eyes, I think they have ticked off every available box now. And considering I was sick of it by Season 2 already, I'll probably tune out.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC)
LOL! Nicely put. :-) But they actually already had the weird-colored eyes, remember? BLACK, like DEMONS!!! Ah ze DRAMA!!!

Don't know about the hair, but I'm sure everyone will be magically attracted and fall in love / admire / hate him on sight.

Oh, wait. We had that already too, didn't we.
Sep. 23rd, 2010 07:58 pm (UTC)
Heh, true. I guess we have officially reached "face it, Lana, you're amazing" territory.
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