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Can't win them all

Supernatural 4.04

A very deflated "Meh" from me.

I was rather bored by the monster story. And the anvil wasn't new.

And I seriously didn't like the characters. Dean was too much bigoted, abusive blue collar for my tastes. The way they staged the punch scene reminded me of the way they did the Spike-Buffy rape scene where she was suddenly all vulnerable so that it came across like an after school special on domestic violence. Fuck it, let Sam punch back and let them hash it out equally.

And Sam was back again to "my destiny, oh my destiny" handwringing when even in the beginning of the ep, he seemed quite happy with it. This was Nightmare, Simon Said, Heart, the Season 2 Finale which is to say I saw it already, mkay?

So less anvils please. I get they both have sympathetic viewpoints, I don't need to be led by neon arrows.

"Yay, I did so much more with my nifty superpowers than we did in the year before."

Thanks for the reminder how Superman rules and humans suck, show.

Ruby - the wonderful, little demon. *sporks out eyes*

And something I never felt before on this show. I don't like Sam and Dean together at the moment. Their relationship has been strained since Dean's return from hell but right now they bring out an unpleasantness in each other that makes me think them getting a breather from each other would be a good thing. Not sure this is what is intended by show.


After really liking her in Season 2 and being at best so-so with her episodes in Season 3, this marks Cathryn Humphries taking absolute last place on my list of SPN writers. Again MEH.



Fair warning: reaction was at best apathetic.

Comments

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albeitslowly
Oct. 10th, 2008 09:24 am (UTC)
I haven't seen it yet, but so far the Dean girls on my list haven't cared for it and the Sam girls are a-squee. I think this means I'm in for a letdown. Le sigh. Maybe I won't even watch it. 'cept I kinda want to see Dean punch Sam. And hear Dean call Castiel Cass. LOL.
astri13
Oct. 10th, 2008 09:32 am (UTC)
I haven't seen it yet, but so far the Dean girls on my list haven't cared for it and the Sam girls are a-squee.

Yeah, I'm not surprised if there will be somewhat of a divide.

And it wasnt mindblowingly horrible like Red Sky or something but it's certainly one episode I will forget soon enough.
nachekana
Oct. 10th, 2008 05:17 pm (UTC)
I'm a Sam!girl and I have to say, my first (and only at the moment actually)reaction was: "Really? That's the best you could come up with such a possibly awesome plot? Let's find a (and I'm right there with you) boring monster that Sam can relate to and write the most useless ending ever! Great brainstorming, people..."

I swear, if Sam doesn't use his powers all over again really soon, I'll be rather pissed. The only positive thing in this episode for me was to actually see Sam. In all his glorious prettiness. Though they're also messing with his hair pretty badly... *sigh*

And the new Ruby is one of the worst actors/actresses they got on the show so far. Or maybe the directors really asked her to play nice but it seems so OOC, I can't even start to believe in it. *sigh 2*

Let's see what next week will bring us, I can't feel more let down anyway... I actually hope the writers are not gonna just brush off this awkwardness between the boys. This might have great angst potential. At least I wish... *sigh 3*
astri13
Oct. 10th, 2008 05:29 pm (UTC)
I swear, if Sam doesn't use his powers all over again really soon, I'll be rather pissed.

Going by the storyline they're building it's inevitable to bring the powers back up. At least I couldn't see it any other way.

Though admittedly it did really sting how the writing implied there that "normal" hunting is somehow inferior to superpowers. Like somehow in retrospect Dean and Sam (and other hunters) who did their best to save lives are suddenly not good or efficient enough anymore. What an inspiring message.

And the new Ruby is one of the worst actors/actresses they got on the show so far. Or maybe the directors really asked her to play nice but it seems so OOC, I can't even start to believe in it. *sigh 2*

I live in fear that the character really is suddenly super-nice and doing it for the good of puppies and rainbows.

Let's see what next week will bring us, I can't feel more let down anyway... I actually hope the writers are not gonna just brush off this awkwardness between the boys. This might have great angst potential. At least I wish... *sigh 3*

Seeing as next week's episode was intended to air as number 3 and I believe shot as number 3 as well, there will likely be no continuity from this one. Maybe they did some re-shoots but with the budget constraints, I doubt it. Le Sigh indeed.
lachli
Oct. 10th, 2008 09:11 pm (UTC)
I was more interested in Sam's hair and the broadness of his chest/back than I was in the boring monster/man struggle, his annoying wife and the silly hunter they just brought in to kill.

I much preferred a floppy fringe on him than this latest 'style' . He's terribly pretty though, they lit him very nicely during this ep.
nachekana
Oct. 11th, 2008 12:12 am (UTC)
the boring monster/man struggle,

Come on, he ate a lot! Wasn't that the most fascinating thing you've ever seen in your life before???

his annoying wife

I couldn't feel less for her. Plus her lips were so fake. They were traumatizing to look at.

and the silly hunter they just brought in to kill.

I could picture this Bobby wannabe dying from the moment he appeared on screen. I don't even know why they bothered to give him a name. They should have called him "future dead guy" straight away.

I much preferred a floppy fringe on him than this latest 'style' . He's terribly pretty though, they lit him very nicely during this ep.

He looks so not like him when he has this slick hairdo! It really doesn't work for me. And the lights really did wonder for him, he looked so pretty in the motel room even while wearing this butt-ugly pink and white shirt !
nachekana
Oct. 10th, 2008 05:37 pm (UTC)
Though admittedly it did really sting how the writing implied there that "normal" hunting is somehow inferior to superpowers.

That's really true. But that's why I want to see Sam use his powers again: considering how one of his eyes turned yellow when he was using them on the demon, I'd rather like the show to tell us: "see? They might come in handy, but they're REALLY dangerous. Old school hunting is better." Maybe that's what season 4 is all about? To bring us back to the basics. Yeah, I don't even believe myself when I write that...

I live in fear that the character really is suddenly super-nice and doing it for the good of puppies and rainbows.

And then Sam would fall in love with her and they will have nice half demon babies. You know, with the girl of the possessed girl. But who cares about this one, if Ruby is a nice demon, right?

Seeing as next week's episode was intended to air as number 3 and I believe shot as number 3 as well, there will likely be no continuity from this one.

Shit. I'm depressed.
astri13
Oct. 10th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
I'd rather like the show to tell us: "see? They might come in handy, but they're REALLY dangerous. Old school hunting is better." Maybe that's what season 4 is all about? To bring us back to the basics. Yeah, I don't even believe myself when I write that...

I'd love it if you were right because that would be awesome. I mean Batman doesn't need to hang his head in shame for not having powers, does he? Give us humans and our wit and diligence some credit, writers.

And then Sam would fall in love with her and they will have nice half demon babies. You know, with the girl of the possessed girl. But who cares about this one, if Ruby is a nice demon, right?

Groan. I just hope they're planning a twist with her.

Shit. I'm depressed.

I feel you. This episode was a pretty big letdown for me, especially considering how I loved the first three. Of course in Season 3 it felt worse but this pretty much was like being back there.

However, there is a clip of the next episode circling around and it does look cute. Maybe some lightheartedness will do us some good after all. I can do with some cheering me up.
nachekana
Oct. 11th, 2008 12:17 am (UTC)
This episode was a pretty big letdown for me, especially considering how I loved the first three.

I guess we wouldn't feel so utterly immensely disappointed in this episode if the start of the season hadn't been so awesome. The same way as I would have enjoyed Ghostfacers a lot more if it hadn't been aired after this huge hiatus.

However, there is a clip of the next episode circling around and it does look cute. Maybe some lightheartedness will do us some good after all. I can do with some cheering me up.

Ok, I wouldn't be mad at a funny and cute episode. The show has been more than heavy with angst and drama in the past *insert big number* of episodes.
astri13
Oct. 11th, 2008 11:19 am (UTC)
Ok, I wouldn't be mad at a funny and cute episode.

Then I think we both might like it. Do you want a sneak peek too or do you prefer to remain unspoiled? Because I could link you to the youtube vid.
nachekana
Oct. 11th, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
Thanks but I'd rather stay unspoiled. I'm trying not to have any kind of expectations for next week episode, so that I can't be dissapointed. :)
lachli
Oct. 10th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
There was a decent story lurking to get out, but I couldn't see it for all the bloody anvils raining down on my head. Seriously bad, bad writing. That was a real jolt after the last three glorious weeks.

The brother dynamic was quite fascinating though and I'm looking forward to rewatching it for that. They're really struggling to find their way with one another again and both are listening to outside influences instead of each other. They're so entrenched in their position that they don't see past it to get to what's important. I was rolling my eyes at Sam, his whole 'woe is me, my life sucks, you don't understand' crap was painful to watch and typical younger sibling. But Dean, the muppet, buys into it and returns to being the parent in the relationship. They can't go back to what they were before, too much has happened. Dean needs to treat Sam as an equal, but Sam needs to behave like one as well.

Both could do with smack around the head IMO *g*.

Other than that, crap episode, very disappointing.
astri13
Oct. 10th, 2008 08:59 pm (UTC)
Seriously bad, bad writing. That was a real jolt after the last three glorious weeks.

For me too. I was riding such a high after the previous three episodes, it's probably only added to my feeling of disappointment here.

Dean needs to treat Sam as an equal, but Sam needs to behave like one as well.

Both could do with smack around the head IMO *g*.


Heh. According to a brandnew, neat theory - seeing as Dean has now punched Sam four!!! times or as they put it "smacked him around" and Sam never hit back, it's a sign that Dean has been physically abusing Sam through childhood and teenagehood. Which is the reason Sam keeps secrets also, so as not to risk being battered when his abuser gets mad.

It's lovely interpretations like this that make me wanna shoot either myself or fandom. Whatever comes first.
lachli
Oct. 10th, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
Heh. According to a brandnew, neat theory - seeing as Dean has now punched Sam four!!! times or as they put it "smacked him around" and Sam never hit back, it's a sign that Dean has been physically abusing Sam through childhood and teenagehood. Which is the reason Sam keeps secrets also, so as not to risk being battered when his abuser gets mad.

Seriously? ROTFLOL! I gave up on the fandom somewhere in season 2, so that's hysterical! As far as I see it Dean hit Sam because he was utterly pissed off and angry at him and that's what they do, they're fighters, it's how they live their life. Sam lets him because he feels guilty and he knows Dean is right about this. It's almost cathartic for Sam to let Dean hit him. I've never seen anyone less abused in my life than Sam, he's protected, mollycoddled and wraps Dean around his little finger like a pro.

It was interesting how they reverted to type in this ep, Sam back to whiny teenage emo kid and Dean the angry parent. I thought they'd got past this and moved on, but obviously in times of crisis they just revert back to the roles they know best.


It's lovely interpretations like this that make me wanna shoot either myself or fandom. Whatever comes first.

*g*
lachli
Oct. 10th, 2008 09:14 pm (UTC)
Meant to say that Sam feels guilty about not telling Dean, more than he feels guilty about using his powers. I think he's undecided about his powers and honestly, for now, thinks he's doing something good. But he obviously has doubts, which is where the guilt about using them is coming in, because like Dean said, it makes him what they hunt.

I do think Dean was silly not to pick up on what Sam said about saving the innocent people, he should have at least acknowledged that. I think he was so driven and back in his 'protect Sammy at all costs' mode that he wasn't listening to anything.

Mind you, do abusers ever listen, LOL.
astri13
Oct. 10th, 2008 10:37 pm (UTC)
I do think Dean was silly not to pick up on what Sam said about saving the innocent people, he should have at least acknowledged that. I think he was so driven and back in his 'protect Sammy at all costs' mode that he wasn't listening to anything.

I think the problem for him is if he encourages the power use in any way, where does it stop? I fully expect Sam to manifest other, potentially more dangerous powers and it can start with a little "well, I'm doing good here" and "it's okay there" which progresses to "I guess we could do it the old fashioned way but it goes much faster if..." and so on.

It's a bit like saying: I know these soft drugs can be handled so that should be okay but do promise me you won't try the harder stuff, m'kay?

Inherently I want the powers to come with a massive downside because I found it really discouraging to hear Sam say how he had totally saved more lifes with Ruby in the last months, than with Dean in a year. Not exactly flattering to be grouped as the less efficient, inferior hunting partner.
nachekana
Oct. 11th, 2008 12:04 am (UTC)
You know, you're actually my link to the crazy side of fandom. I really don't make the effort to go read all the reviews and opinions about SPN in the different boards,so I don't know what stupid theories just pop up lately. But they're so funnily stupid, that'd be a shame to miss them! XD

I have to say Dean the Abuser is by far one of my favorites. In the last 3 years, Dean really showed his habit of beating Sam up. I think all the injuries we saw in the past on Sam's body were actually made by Dean. How could we not see that?!? I now truly believe that Jake was actually Dean in disguise. *rolls eyes*
astri13
Oct. 11th, 2008 11:23 am (UTC)
You know, you're actually my link to the crazy side of fandom.

Hehe. I aim to plese. :)

I have to say Dean the Abuser is by far one of my favorites. In the last 3 years, Dean really showed his habit of beating Sam up. I think all the injuries we saw in the past on Sam's body were actually made by Dean. How could we not see that?!? I now truly believe that Jake was actually Dean in disguise.

Hahahaha, very probably.

And it's twice as bad because Sam is so tiny and frail. And he can't fight, just remember what those Swat guys did to him in Nightshifter.

Hm...might there be a flaw in this logic? Nah.
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