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Getting caught up on my Friday shows

I watched the last two episodes of


While Peter`s Observer-transformation finally kicks the storyline into gear and his new powers are waycool to watch, I sure hope they can fix this. And that he won`t lose his beautiful hair. Noooooooo. There are limits on what I consider acceptable sacrifices for saving the world, you know. *g* - Holy crap, people


So Nick knows about Juliet and Renard though not yet about Renard`s origins/status in the Wesen world. I hope they somehow manage to resolve this stupid love triangle, after all, the only reason Renard tried to help Juliet in the first place was to keep Nick around and manage to work together somehow. I get that Renard is somewhat of a shady character but I always thought he was genuinely good at his job and him and Nick have a great rapport.

Also, Nick (and Monroe) taking on the Verrat assassins like that? Wow, Nick sure is building up his reputation. In the beginning of the show, it always struck me as so funny when Wesen would go "`ZOMG!Grimm" and shaking in their boots in front of sweet, easy-going Nick who hadn`t harmed a fly at this point. But these days? He seems to have aquired some ninja-fighting skills and I don`t know, superstrength? Because at first it sure looked like stronger Wesen bitch-slapped him around like any old human but now they seem equally matched if not Nick stronger when they fight. Like, you`ll see a Wesen slap around the much bulkier Hank but Nick is barely fazed by a punch. Anyone else notice that? - Another holy crap, here

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Aww, Duke, I just feel for him. He is trying SOOOO hard this Season and things just never really seem to work out in his favour. And his running sarcastic commentary on things? Great.

I was happy to see Nathan treat him better when they were stuck in the past. Seemed to come out of nowhere though considering the Season so far. Oh well, I take what I can get.

Nathan is the father of the Colorado kid then? Not sure how I feel about that. While Sarah is Audrey on some level, they are also different enough that romantically substituting one for the other should be wildly problematic. On some level, it proved that Nathan pretty much wants Audrey first and foremost still - and poor Jordan who seems to genuinely care for him, not realizing she isn`t the "one" - but getting with Sarah is kinda like boinking a twin of the one you really want.

Oh, OT3, what am I supposed to be doing with you? *flaily hands* - oh we`re closing in on the Season Finale now *wibble* but did you hear, renewed for S4? \o/

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mareen
Nov. 19th, 2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
I am not sure if Nathan and Sarah were having sex at all or if they just kissed. It looked to me as if there was just a kiss, but then if you look at Nathan's face when he hears that Sarah got pregnant... he looks really shocked. I really don't know what happened there, to be honest.

I think what they were trying to tell us with Sarah/Nathan is that a) like Audrey said last episode, she will always and forever love Nathan (even in the past) and b) that Audrey might be different each time, but she is also always the same.
I really don't have that much of a problem if Nathan had sex with Sarah. I know I should, but I don't.


Like, you`ll see a Wesen slap around the much bulkier Hank but Nick is barely fazed by a punch. Anyone else notice that?

I did, and I think I remember that at the beginning of season 1 Nick's aunt implied that there were powers involved with being a Grimm that he would grow into. I think that's what is happening here, and for a while now. It wasn't actually the first episode that had Nick fight like some kind of ninja.

So Nick knows about Juliet and Renard though not yet about Renard`s origins/status in the Wesen world.

He doesn't know about Renard's status as a prince, but I believe he is now sure that Renard is a Wesen of some sort. He did got to the spice shop not for tea, but for a Wesen thingy. So it's pretty obvious what is going on.

Of course, what I can't make sense of is that nobody there seems to be remembering that Renard came to the spice shop to get help about a love spell. Monroe knows this. Then why is Nick so damn angry. I wold have expected him to try to help Juliette, not get so pissed off.

All in all, I think the plot only worked because everybody was behaving like an idiot. Also, they really need to get rid of Juliette.



Edited at 2012-11-19 04:58 pm (UTC)
astri13
Nov. 19th, 2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
but then if you look at Nathan's face when he hears that Sarah got pregnant... he looks really shocked

I think Sarah then went on to have a relationship with Dave, right? But since Vince told Audrey in the previous episode that Sarah never told them who the father of the Colorado kid was, I now assume it was Nathan. If it was Dave, no reason to make a big secret out of it.

Also not sure about the passage of time from when Sarah/Audrey first comes to Haven till the Hunter. From the show so far I can`t tell but one Season doesn`t look like one year. So maybe it was just enough time to get pregnant early on and have the baby before she went away.

I just think how weird that must be for Audrey. Not only did she have these past lives that were her own but then again not and in one she had a child but now it`s most likely she had that child with Nathan, without even knowing it.

But the one I feel worst of all right now is just Duke. Nathan had some nice moments in the past with his adoptive father as a wee lad and with Sarah but Duke basically had to fascilitate his own grandfather getting killed and being smacked into the face with one more "fate is fate" lesson.

I did, and I think I remember that at the beginning of season 1 Nick's aunt implied that there were powers involved with being a Grimm that he would grow into. I think that's what is happening here, and for a while now. It wasn't actually the first episode that had Nick fight like some kind of ninja.

Nope, it started towards the ending of last year. I think I noticed it most clearly when Nick fought those two Reapers in the Icebiber episode.

Makes sense of course. Without any special power of his own, a Grimm would seem horribly outmatched. Like if Buffy was just a regular girl too and still supposed to take on superpowered vampires.

but I believe he is now sure that Renard is a Wesen of some sort. He did got to the spice shop not for tea, but for a Wesen thingy. So it's pretty obvious what is going on.

Of course, what I can't make sense of is that nobody there seems to be remembering that Renard came to the spice shop to get help about a love spell. Monroe knows this.


That drove me crazy, with Monroe not mentioning it. I mean, it would have been really important info, considering the whole situation.

As it is, I`m not sure Nick would assume Renard`s a Wesen, even with the spice shop connection. He should be really weirded out why Renard and Juliette came there in the first place and ask Monroe to explain more, though.

Right now, I believe Nick knows nothing about the obsession thing and just believes Juliette got together with another guy who then turns out to be Renard.

Then why is Nick so damn angry. I wold have expected him to try to help Juliette, not get so pissed off.

I can see him being hurt and angry and most of all confused if I go by my above assumption. Of course, that does indeed only work with the idiot factor in play. As soon as the spell thing is cleared up, things should change.

Also, they really need to get rid of Juliette.

I don`t dislike the character but to stay, she`d need a point in the show. And preferably not as the object of some wonky love triangle.

Somehow I`m not really a fan of Adalind either. The character and/or the actress just grates on me, always have.
katje0711
Nov. 20th, 2012 04:56 pm (UTC)
Did Monroe tell Nick why Juliet was there with Renard? Also, just based on knowing that how would Nick know Renard and Juliet were trying to break the spell? But Nick did piss me off when he took off on Juliet when she said she wanted to talk to him. It's not her fault she can't remember him!

Why on earth do they need to get rid of Juliet??
mareen
Nov. 20th, 2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
I don't know if Monroe told Nick. If he did, then why was Nick so angry? If he didn't, then why didn't he? Because obviously it was one of the biggest parts of that puzzle. There is a difference between "The woman you are living with was kissing another man in my store." and "The woman you are living with was kissing another man in my store who was trying to cure himself and a woman of a love/obsession spell."

In any case, the whole thing did not make sense to me. If Monroe did not tell Nick, the only reason was obviously that the writers needed some big confrontation scene. Which is just bad writing, no matter how much I'm looking forward to that upcoming Renard/Nick scene.

But Nick did piss me off when he took off on Juliet when she said she wanted to talk to him. It's not her fault she can't remember him!

No it's not her fault, but that doesn't mean it isn't understandable that he doesn't want to talk to the woman he loves right at the moment when he figures out she is seeing someone else. And I have to wonder why Juliet did not talk to him about that obsession much, much earlier. She said herself that she doesn't understand it. She also knows there's something strange going on with her memory. But she never seems to ask the right questions, and when she asks and hears something she doesn't want to hear, she takes off, like with the Bruja (?).

I find the writing for this character frustrating to say the least.

Why on earth do they need to get rid of Juliet??

Because she brings nothing to the show. I actually kind of liked her in season 1, but right now I don't see the point of her, and I don't even like her.
leelust
Nov. 19th, 2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
Yes, we have s4! :)
I have no problem with Nat *cheating* on Jordan cause i ain't a fan of her at all and she was *a case* in the first place after all.
As for sleeping with Sarah instead of Audrey - there i have some problem i must admit it. Though i don't think Sarah and Audrey are different people, i think it's like the reincarnation of the same person so technically she's the same woman Nat fell in love with and the one he can feel. I wonder if in the past he only could feel only Sarah or it was different with everyone for him?
astri13
Nov. 19th, 2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
I wonder if in the past he only could feel only Sarah or it was different with everyone for him?

I think he could. Duke kept his trouble, even in the past so I assume Nathan kept his, too. It was hilarious when Sarah was dragging him by his ear and he kept going "ow, ow, ow, ow". Teehee.

I like Jordan as well, not that I care for her and Nathan as a couple but she doesn`t deserve being manipulated like this.
lovis
Nov. 19th, 2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
re Fringe:

Ugh, this season is so hard to watch. It's all so bleak. :(

Yeah, it's a great storyline but - I want my lovely Olivia/Peter scenes! Dammit! *pout*
astri13
Nov. 19th, 2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
I knew I would have a hard time with this Season of Fringe because I can only take dystopian futures like this in small doses and this almost robotic society, controlled by the Observers is testing my limits.

But the first few episodes seemed like treading water so much, I was just happy something seems to be progressing. Somehow I don`t think they will go for a really bad, tragic ending. Peter is most likely going to be saved at the last minute. With Peter and Olivia finding each other again for real.

Till then I enjoyed getting the chills as he started talking like an Observer at the end of the episode. Josh is doing a great job IMO with the facial tics and the speech patterns.

My prediction would be for them to stop the invasion before it happened and basically getting back in time to where they were a happy family with little Etta. Cheesy I know but this show started with a father destroying the fabric of the universe because he couldn`t handle the loss of a child and slowly getting his redemption. I think the next generation should get their reward as well.

If a character truly is to die at the end of the show, my predictions would be Walter but even there I would give it a 30:70 chance only.

Out of all my shows this year and ultra-tragic endings, I`m only getting really frantic for Merlin right now. *breathes in paper bag*
mareen
Nov. 19th, 2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
To be honest, my expectation for the ending will be one of them going back in time to stop Walter from getting Peter from the other Universe. Because if you get down to it, it all starts with that, considering it now seems as if Peter is the first Observer. So no Peter, no Observers. No Observers, no Observer who deflects Walternate, so Walternate actually comes up with the cure for Peter, Walter doesn't cross over to save Peter...a whole new Timeline starts.

It's sad for Peter and Olivia, but the best for the rest of the universe.
astri13
Nov. 19th, 2012 07:43 pm (UTC)
considering it now seems as if Peter is the first Observer

I don`t know. It`s a possibility and Windmark smiled a little seeing him but I don`t see how Peter starting the Observers would work. And if he did, why did they genuinely try to erase him from the timeline after Season 3?

My understanding is that the Observers always would have come to invade, unrelated to Walter`s actions at the beginning of the show.
katje0711
Nov. 20th, 2012 04:44 pm (UTC)
I'm glad that Renard at least seems to want to do the right thing in regards to the Juliet situation. I just wish she'd cooperate!

Nick pissed me off the way he just left Juliet like that, though. So much for them talking. Wow! I was also beginning to think that he might start thinking Monroe was involved with Juliet the way he was always showing up. LOL
astri13
Nov. 20th, 2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
Nick pissed me off the way he just left Juliet like that, though.

I could understand it. From his position, he has really been trying and they have even got closer in the last few weeks. That dinner where they nearly kissed etc. So he would have been under the impression that things might be getting better between them.

Then wham, out of the blue, he learns that she has apparently been seeing someone else. He must wonder why she didn`t tell him that because as it is it looks to him like she just strung him along. Now of course he doesn`t have all the facts but then, noone has told him anything so that`s not his fault.

And I could even understand his statement of "I`m not sleeping on that couch anymore" delivered as angrily as it was. As I understand it, it`s both their house. So while obviously not remembering him, he can`t expect her to share a bed, why would she be entitled to the bedroom just like that? They could have rotated on who gets the couch. In this situation where noone is at fault, it would have been fair.
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