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In which I babble some more about X-Men...

You know what else is awesome about X-Men First Class? They bothered to make German sound like actual German. I mean in the cantina scene that one actor was completely fluent and the other did a good enough job of it. And as Michael Fassbender is of German and Irish decent, he is fluent in it as well. Probably doesn't speak often as he carefully enunciates some words but still.

After so many times of movies/shows showing a minor "German" side character who made me wanna rip off my own ears as soon as they opened their mouth, that was a neat attention to detail.

Also, something that cracked me up on my, oh I don't know, twentieth rewatching or so :) for someone who can control minds and make others do as he wants, Erik has a ridiculously easy time to make Charles go along with him at points. Well, until the end that is.

But really, check out Charles and CIA director discussing the use of Cerebro to find other mutants. Charles is all agreeable and excited, seemingly without much qualms. In walks Erik who demands a strictly no-suit policy on the endeavour and Charles? Immediately agrees with that.

Later after the attack on the CIA facility, Charles wants to send the kids home right away. Erik says they need their own little army. And just like that Charles turns around and tells them all they'll have to train.

The one time Charles doesn't give in to Erik (again until the end) is when Erik basically bounces in front of him, giddily wanting Charles to shoot him point blank as training. And note that Charles has no qualms to offer himself and Hank up for target practice for Alex or let Sean attempt to fly out of a second-story window so obviously safety regulations during training are lax at best. But there he stands with the gun in hand and hems and haws adorably and just can't, neatly deflecting the topic to why won't Erik rather raise submarines anyway. In conclusion. Awwwww.

Oh, and a small comment about the Wolverine tells them to "go fuck yourselves" and what do Erik and Charles do? Try to talk to him at least once? Tell him off for being so rude? Punch him in the face? Hm, lets see. *g* Instead they look at each other, shrug and walk out in a quick pace. Bahahahaha. It was like they both went "okay" and off they were. Considering they put that phrase in Wolverine's mouth right there it was just awesome.

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mareen
Jun. 19th, 2011 05:36 pm (UTC)
But really, check out Charles and CIA director discussing the use of Cerebro to find other mutants. Charles is all agreeable and excited, seemingly without much qualms. In walks Erik who demands a strictly no-suit policy on the endeavour and Charles? Immediately agrees with that.


I am pretty sure they had a very lenghty discussion inside their heads before Charles agreed with Erik. Same as when they took out Emma Frost together. Remember how they moved at the very same time and knew exactly what to do to get her strapped to the bed. I am certain the actors had at least one discussion about how their characters should have conversations with each other no one elese ever hears.
astri13
Jun. 19th, 2011 06:02 pm (UTC)
I am pretty sure they had a very lenghty discussion inside their heads before Charles agreed with Erik.

They might have communicated but I took it more as Charles not wanting to alienate Erik right away. He was pleased to see the man stay so backing him up on this matter was going to gain him some modicum of trust.

And probably Charles agreed on some level. He was obviously upset when Raven changed her eye colour in the bar scene, fear of slipping up and so on so his easy-going optimism aside, he must have had some instict to hide.

I am certain the actors had at least one discussion about how their characters should have conversations with each other no one elese ever hears.

I hope the DVD has a cast audio commentary. I love those. And it would crack me up to hear James McAvoy go "yeah, they totally should have had (or had) sex" during the entire movie. *g*
katikat
Jun. 19th, 2011 05:37 pm (UTC)
I think the guy who got his hand stabbed is German or Austrian? I've seen him in some German show, on RTL or SAT1. My inner language geek squeed when both Erik and Charles spoke in tongues! \o/
astri13
Jun. 19th, 2011 06:08 pm (UTC)
I figured the guy who said he had been a tailor was a native speaker, the others' speech was a bit strained.

My inner language geek squeed when both Erik and Charles spoke in tongues! \o/

Heh. My Russian is too rusty to say how James McAvoy did (and he only had one phrase) but for the character it was definitely fun to see.
katikat
Jun. 19th, 2011 06:16 pm (UTC)
aubergineautumn
Jun. 19th, 2011 08:42 pm (UTC)
....when I heard the German accent, I thought: I hate when English actors do German accents. Michael Fassbender did not come across as German to me, at all, he seemed VERY British. I was really surprised that German was his second language. I played bridge with several German immigrants from WWII, and their English accent is waaaaaaaaaaay different than his accent in the movie. So that part actually sounded fake to me, it sounded like German learned in school rather than his native language. I think it had to do with the fact that his pronunciation was not forceful enough? Or something, it sounds like my Spanish, the intonation is slightly wrong.

If you like X-Men First Class, please check out seperis' discussion and latest fics, if you haven't already. I think you will like it!
Her first Meta:http://seperis.livejournal.com/885902.html
..and then she made video recs and other meta from there that you can read at her journal if you want.

Her first AU fic: http://seperis.livejournal.com/887597.html#cutid1



astri13
Jun. 23rd, 2011 07:08 pm (UTC)
Michael Fassbender did not come across as German to me, at all, he seemed VERY British. I was really surprised that German was his second language.

I wouldn't peg him for a native speaker, of course, but he didn't sound like someone who just learned the words like lines without knowing what they mean - Kevin Bacon obviously did that.

I think it had to do with the fact that his pronunciation was not forceful enough?

He probably understands it a lot better than he speaks the language. To me he sounded like someone who doesn't practice a lot which of course means you are hesitant when speaking. I consider myself pretty fluent in English but I so seldom get to really speak it so when I do I tend to stammer a bit.

Thank you for the recs, will check out.
xkatjafx
Jun. 23rd, 2011 01:32 pm (UTC)
*wink* Hast du zufällig irgendwelche fanfic recs?
astri13
Jun. 23rd, 2011 03:39 pm (UTC)
Ich bin größtenteils auch nur erik_charles durchgegangen. Hm, mal schauen.

Was lustiges:
How near, how far Alle im Haus versuchen, Erik und Charles zusammenzubringen. *g*

Placing Bets so in etwa diesselbe Grundidee

Cheers
Drunk!Charles

Very angsty:
Somebody's gotta save my soul Non/dub con. Erik denkt, es wäre für alle besser, wenn er und Charles einander hassen.

Irgendwo dazwischen :)
This Night ein Wiedersehen post-movie

Better men

Words of love along the wires

Protegé ist die erste längere Story, die ich gelesen hab. bisher sind's 3 Teile, WIP, one-sided Alex/Charles (stört aber nicht)

Edited at 2011-06-23 03:42 pm (UTC)
xkatjafx
Jun. 23rd, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
Danke!! Dieses Fandom hat so ne Masse an Output, dass man irgendwie nicht weiss, wo man anfangen soll...
astri13
Jun. 23rd, 2011 05:05 pm (UTC)
Ich schmöker abends zwei, drei stories - wie gesagt, die meisten sind relativ kurz.

Schaust du eigentlich auch cast interviews? Ich hoffe schon sehr auf einen DVD commentary, in dem James McAvoy den ganzen Film lang Erik/Charles slasht. Und wie man hier sieht, hat er ja auch mit RPS kein Problem.
xkatjafx
Jun. 23rd, 2011 06:08 pm (UTC)

Schaust du eigentlich auch cast interviews?

Bisher hatte ich noch keine Zeit wirkliche dafür. (Aber DAS Interview kenne ich trotzdem. Ich vermute, man kann dem auf keiner f-list entkommen *g*)
Meine Fandom-Aktivität hat ungefährt vor 5 Stunden begonnen. Anscheinend musste der Film erstmal 5 Tage sacken ; )
astri13
Jun. 23rd, 2011 07:03 pm (UTC)
Ich vermute, man kann dem auf keiner f-list entkommen *g*)

Hehe, gut möglich.

Meine Fandom-Aktivität hat ungefährt vor 5 Stunden begonnen. Anscheinend musste der Film erstmal 5 Tage sacken ; )

Bei mir hat's auch ein paar Tage gedauert. Erstmal mußte ich mich gedanklich von dem bisherigen X-Men canon lösen und den neuen Film jetzt als was Eigenes betrachten. Danach hat die Wirkung allerdings wie eine Bombe eingesetzt. *g*

Ich hatte ihn auch ziemlich bald nach dem Kinostart gesehen (und diese Woche endlich auch im Kino *hust* :) Hoffe mal trotz des durchwachsenen Einspielergebnisses gibt es weitere Filme.
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